Minutes - Business Committee


Meeting Venue:

Conference Room 4B - Tŷ Hywel

Meeting date: 14 October 2025

Meeting time: 08.58 - 09.24


Private, Hybrid

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Attendance

Category

Names

Committee Members:

Elin Jones MS, Llywydd (Chair)

Paul Davies MS

Heledd Fychan MS

Jane Hutt MS

Committee Staff:

Graeme Francis, Clerk

Steffan Lewis, Deputy Clerk

Others in attendance

David Rees MS, Deputy Presiding Officer

Jane Dodds MS

Manon Antoniazzi, Chief Executive and Clerk

Julian Luke, Director of Senedd Business

Bethan Davies, Head of Chamber and Committee Service

Marc Wyn Jones, Head of Policy and Legislation Committee

Service

Helen Carey, Welsh Government

 

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1       Introductions, apologies and substitutions

The Llywydd welcomed Members to the meeting. No apologies were received.

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2       Minutes of the previous meeting

The Minutes of the previous meeting were agreed for publication.

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3       Organisation of Business

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3.1   This week's business

Tuesday

 

Wednesday

Business Committee agreed the following change:

 

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3.2   Three week timetable of Government Business

The Trefnydd informed Business Managers of the following changes to the Three Week Timetable of Government Business:

 

Tuesday 4 November 2025

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3.3   Three week timetable of Senedd Business

Business Managers agreed the following changes to the Three Week Timetable of Senedd Business:

Wednesday 12 November 2025 –

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4       Legislation

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4.1   Letter from the Chair of the Finance Committee regarding the post-legislative review of the Public Services Ombudsman (Wales) Act 2019

The Business Committee noted the letter and agreed to  consider removing the provision set out in Standing Order 18A.2(i) as part of any miscellaneous review of Standing Orders carried out prior to the end of this Senedd term.

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4.2   Update on LCMs

The Business Committee considered an update from the Trefnydd and agreed to:

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5       Committees

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5.1   Committee scrutiny of the Senedd Cymru (Member Accountability and Elections) Bill

The Business Committee considered further matters concerning the establishment of a Member Accountability Bill Committee to scrutinise the Senedd Cymru (Member Accountability and Elections) Bill.

The Business Committee had agreed, in principle, for the Committee to be constituted with four members (2 Labour, 1 Conservative, 1 Plaid Cymru) and the Deputy Presiding Officer as a non-voting Chair. The Committee’s membership – in terms of the composition and the identity of the members – were noted to be dependent on whether or not it was intended that the Bill be referred to a Committee of the Whole Senedd at Stage 2. Subject to that point being resolved, and political groups being able to provide the names of Members to be nominated as members of the Committee following the meeting, Business Committee agreed for a motion to establish the Committee to be proposed in Plenary on 15 October, through a suspension of Standing Orders.

The Trefnydd indicated that the Welsh Government’s preference is for Stage 2 proceedings to be referred to the Member Accountability Bill Committee, as opposed to by a Committee of the Whole Senedd. The Llywydd stated that previous precedent is that Bills of a constitutional nature have been referred to a Committee of the Whole Senedd for Stage 2. Paul Davies, Heledd Fychan and Jane Dodds all indicated that it was their preference for Stage 2 to be conducted by to a Committee of the Whole Senedd.

 

Business Managers agreed to discuss this matter further with their groups, with a view to seeking agreement to enable the Committee to be established on Wednesday 15 October.

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6       Procedural Work

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6.1   Review of guidance on virtual and hybrid proceedings

The Business Committee considered and indicated its satisfaction with proposed changes to the Llywydd’s Guidance on virtual and hybrid proceedings relating to the locations from which Members are permitted to cast their votes in Plenary proceedings. The amended Guidance would be published as soon as possible.

The Business Committee noted that it will return to consider further amendments to aspects of the Guidance relating to committee proceedings, in light of these changes and views received from the Chairs’ Forum, at a subsequent meeting.

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